EuteR

My doors are rubbing fenders, not painted on the bottom and have a few runs. Im over waiting, comments and looking at it to be honest, so who do I trust these days?

A whole respray of the truck is not out of the question either. Just want it minty.

slowrider16

what area are you in?

Novaracer

Fleet autobody did my nova.They did a good job.Kenny Lang does good work,but he isn't cheap.But for a big baller like you that shouldn't matter.

twenty

didnt that thing just get painted last year?

iLLblazer

Yes it did, Kohler is no longer doing work so he's not able to fix the couple things that Euter wants looked after. The doors never rubbed the fenders when it left HoK though.

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my f/s never rubbed doors on fenders until I drove it

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EuteR

my FS rubbed fenders before I even got to drive it. When we started putting carpet and stuff in Itkze noticed the doors. If I drove it fine, but i never did.

Kohler complains about everyone being super hack... but I dunno, I feel ripped off. He knew about the problems right as soon as I found out, but he chose not to fix it. Pretty shitty. I came with money as soon as he wanted it , even before, but now that he has to fix something and there is nothing but excuses.. I mean the bottom of my doors have NO paint on them... My box is a different color then the rest of the truck.. Shoulda got maaco. LOL

Reid007

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i do to many restoration paint jobs and the odd custom job when i have no other mpi work, and i find that people in this city never have the cash to get body work and paint done properly. Respect the cost of doing it right like people in say california, or dont compalin that it turns out shitty... i can almost guarentee he didnt charge enough to make it worth while enough to stop doing autopac work to handle. just imo tho...

iLLblazer

Exactly why HoK is no longer. We did air installs for piss all for 2 years, and everyone still expected the world. For the most part we gave it to em. It got old. Hell I took a call last week about a completely unrelated electrical issue on a truck we bagged 3 years ago and did my best to help the guy out and it has nothing to do with my current shop. I pulled a bag out of my own truck for Euter last year when he had an issue and now I'm stuck with one old model and one new model slam in the front of my blazer lol.

I don't bother with basic jobs or 'cheap' jobs anymore because its not worth my time. I can make grain bin doors and shelving for 10X the profit. So I now deal with guys willing to pay, and you get what you pay for. if I'm working for nothing then I'd rather lose money working on my own trucks. There's plenty of schlubs out there willing to jank your truck up for beer money if you dont want to pay for what its worth to have a professional job.

Euter, I do see your side and I'm not disagreeing with you. Youa re rightfully upset that some things DO need attention. But the truth is that kohler does not have the means or facilities to respray your truck to the point where you would be happy with it. It just happened that your truck was the straw that broke the camels back at HoK because its simply wasnt worth it anymore.

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EuteR

I dunno man.. Money was never a issue and he knew that. I got charged about 2 grand for body work and 4 or 5 for paint. (dont even remember)I never once said, oh man hook me up with a killer deal to save me a 100 bucks. Not a chance. Not my style. I never got Kohler to paint it because he was cheaper.. It was TRUST that got my truck in his garage. If your already charging someone so much, why not say, I can do it hack for 5 or fuckin amazing for 6 or 7. Not a hard decision on my part. I paid for a FULL paint job according to him. Why would i pay him for a 95% job, like really. Why arent my doors fully painted and why are they full of runs. I dont remember him saying some parts wont be painted for 5. Looks fuckin TERRIBLE in the sun. If he wanted more to do it right I would have had NO FUCKING problem giving it to him. Now im pretty much stuck paying another 5 grand for someone to do it right, so that makes no sense to me not to ask for more at the time.. Thanks?

I dont even have a problem giving him money to fix it this time, but he wont answer any calls or texts anymore for me to even give him a chance and thats my biggest issue with him at this point. He said he would fix it but apparently that means nothing.

Its shitty, never had a problem with Kohler, was always a stand up guy to me. I just wish he would man up and fix his mistakes. What did ya say Kohler.... "No problem, I only need it for a day, we will get it fixed up for ya"

The things people say to get you off the phone.. Eh!

iLLblazer

A LOT has changed since you last talked to him Euter. HoK is no longer in business, Shane has another kid and has a new job thats not at a body shop (no booth access, no hookups for materials)

Like I said its a shitty deal for you and you have the right to be upset but don't rag on the guy who is really between a rock and a hard place to help you out. Shane has always been a stand up guy who backs his work and I'm sure if he felt he could help, he would. Its pretty much a no win situation for him to try to fix it since you arent going to be happy with anything less than a proper paint job done in a booth, and he has no booth or access to one anymore.

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EuteR

Im not asking him to repaint the whole damn thing.. The box being a different color is NOT ok but that is not the issue that I asked/he agreed to fix. Its just the one that everyone notices. I just want my doors painted COMPLETELY from him. I dont think he needs a booth to do so. He could paint them better in a dusty garage IMO. They are terrible man, so I feel that is not a valid excuse. He can go get paint, and Im sure he has a fuckin paint gun kicking around.

Hey and I totally understand the issues he is/was having with the new kid, im really not trying to be a fuckin knob here. He did take money to do something, and I feel he needs to finish what he took money for. I dont get money back for a half assed job... Its not even close to a fair situation. He ALWAYS bitched about people not paying him and screwing him around so I fuckin paid that man before he even asked. Now he is the one screwing around. Hypocrite.

EuteR

You saying he backs his work is bullshit too. We would not be having this conversation if this were a true statement. He can totally fix it, you dont need a hookup for a few bucks in paint.. You just go get it and fix the fuckin problem.

iLLblazer

Well I'm sure you'll hear from him now...

HoK is no longer in business. If your truck was scheduled to go into McNaught for warranty work and then GM went under, would you expect the mechanic to take it home and fix it?

The only difference is that Shanes business was home based. It doesnt change the fact that HoK, where you had your truck painted, is no longer in business.

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flamingx

As a body man that has been stuck in the middle of simular situations many times, let me just say a few things that may not help you out, but hopfully let you understand what has most likely happened.


I don't know anything about this Hok or their former employees, but the last shop I worked for used to do the same to customers (that's why I'm not there anymore, and I just heard they filed for bankrupcy last week) The shop was always doing bargan basement jobs for customers and losing money hand over fist. Then when someone walks through the door and says 'Damn the cost, I want it done right' you can see the dollar signs in the boss's eyes. He starts out telling me to do a top notch job, but about half way through, (usually when their behind on a few unrelated bills) he starts telling me 'it's got to be ready to paint tomorrow' and becuase I knew the customer is paying for a top job I'd push the boss back a day or two on this new scedual until I'm happy with my work. Now in my case the boss was the painter so he'd just splash the paint on (and not enough of it) to try to keep cost down to increase profits. Then he tells me 'just slap it back together and get it out the door so that we can get paid'. Once the shop starts hurting for money, IT BECOMES ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, NOT THE CUSTOMER!

As for the box being a different colour, If it is a high metalic or pearl, the truck HAS to be painted together, you'd be suprized at the number of painters that dont realize that. Even if the box is sitting on a stand 6' away from the cab and sprayed at the same time, when you bolt it on, it will be a differnt shade because of the air flow of the booth, the movement of the gun and variance of temperature from one end of the booth to the other will cause metalics and pearls to lay differently.

Hope this long winded explaination helps.

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